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Post by seawolf on Dec 14, 2010 14:58:32 GMT
Had a talk to a lady that visited a pound somewhere in the lincolnshire area - she said to me half of them were not crosses!! she said there was pure collies, rotties, akitas and lots of staffs, she said to me that alot of purebred that come in are usully put to sleep.. WHAT?! am i the only one that thinks that its a bit strange?? also found this website - www.k9searchuk.com/pound2.htm Ace is beautiful
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Post by elaine on Dec 14, 2010 17:08:13 GMT
Sorry to be the bearer of bad new's, but just because they are not crosses, does not mean they are not PTS. Dog's such as Rotties, Akita's, Staffs, and Mastiffs, are often PTS, in pounds across the country, as these are the dog's that people want the least. This is why, we have more of these dog's in our rescue, as they are the first ones to go, but we can only help so many. In fact, a cross breed, is more likely to get a home, than the breeds i have mentioned, hard to believe i know, but very true. As for K9search, we have many dog's from this pound, and have done for a long time now. We would love to be abe to save them all, but it is just not possible, and our hearts break almost on a daily basis, when we know dog's will die, and we cannot help them.
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Post by seawolf on Dec 14, 2010 17:27:42 GMT
Ah i just found it and wondered if you knew about it! I just dont understand why people just throw there dogs out, and usually people are pretty willing to pay 100's to get a pure bred dog, yet there are so many homeless ones in pounds! And its horrible that not all dogs can be saved especially seen as the majority of them are staffs!
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Post by Andy on Dec 15, 2010 10:03:52 GMT
Interesting question SW! Thought about this when chatting with a mate who asked "what breed of dog would you most like?" The answer is a 'pot hound' (our family term for x breed ). Pure's are bred for a specific purpose or trait, gives them certain desireable characteristics traded off against unwanted ones, so you always get good and bad, often more bad as the gene pool is restricted, x breeds usually have a better balance of characteristics (and tend on average to be more healthy) so can make more suitable family pets.
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Post by helby on Dec 15, 2010 13:07:35 GMT
We adopted Tia, a douge de Bordeaux in Feb from Elaine and the guys at Babworth and her teeth are shocking! This we imagine is due to all the inbreeding! She can chew a bone or pick the plastic eyes out of a teddy bear like a Bear but her teeth are all wonky and she has thicker gums/teeth roots then she should have.
After the novelty of the puppy has worn off and the breed traits and health issues creep in that when they end up in the pound! Sad but true.
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2010 22:57:43 GMT
pure bred = more money from pups = people who have no idea of breed genetics breeding 2 unsuitable dogs together = sell pups that haven't had a proper nutritional diet = shed loads of health proplems but they dont care as it funds the next holiday, car etc. Unfortunate person who bought sad little pup either ends up with massive vets bills or either throws the dog out on the street or hands it into either a pound (24 hour grace period before it can legally be put to sleep) or hands it into an already financially strapped rescue centre where it adds to the burden with vets bills. Its an unfortunate fact of life that people also breed their cross breed dogs on purpose as they are so nice the pups are bound to be gorgeous and however misguided they might be it still remains a fact that the large gene pool that the cross breeds pull from does often mean more resiliant pups that have less health problems. Visited several pounds on numerous occasions and to be honest if we so desired we would have absolutely no problem with filling every kennel that we have with pure breed dogs and possibly give us a couple of weeks we could have a different breed in every kennel too!!!
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Post by helenS on Dec 16, 2010 12:47:09 GMT
pure bred = more money from pups = people who have no idea of breed genetics breeding 2 unsuitable dogs together = sell pups that haven't had a proper nutritional diet = shed loads of health proplems but they dont care as it funds the next holiday, car etc. THIS exactly there are more and more puppy farms with more and more cunning ways to tricking people into handing over money, also people are generally more skint and (very much wrongly) see breeding their dog as a way to make a quick few quid
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Post by seawolf on Dec 16, 2010 14:39:08 GMT
It really is horrible i know how many health problems there are with pure bred, like pugs breathing problems for example and it really does shock me as to why people are still breeding, they must know
but it seems money is the only thing people care about, unfortunatly.
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Post by dodledeedle on Dec 17, 2010 12:09:34 GMT
Thus is exactly WHY it should be regulated and monitored about time the animal welfare agencies got onto the government to sort it! Think of the tax the gov are missing out on with these back street breeders and their cash in hand!!
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Post by helby on Dec 18, 2010 23:40:20 GMT
And the Kennel Club of Great Britain give KC registered breeders advice that breeding grand father to grand daughter is alright!
(Just so wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!)
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Post by helenS on Dec 19, 2010 11:50:49 GMT
I dont know anything about breeding dogs, and my rat breeding knowledge is picked up from a rat forum I used to go on when I was actively rescuing and rehoming, but on the rat forum they say that (with rats) inbreeding isnt necessarily a bad thing as they can use it to continue lines with certain benefits I dont know if this applies to dogs too? Personally I am against breeding any animal although i greatly understand the benefits of breeding specific working dogs for people with disabilities
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Post by Mark on Dec 19, 2010 19:39:08 GMT
I know in my previous post I sound very anti breeding but actually I have nothing against it IF the breeder takes responsibility for the offspring of their animals for the rest of their lives. If there was ever any regulations brought in to this effect it would definitely make people think twice before breeding any animal if they were made legally responsible to take back and rehome any animal that they bred (surely the government would like the idea of HEFTY fine for failure to comply!!) - also would either take the pressure off rescues or make them unnesccessary - we can only live in hope that one day............
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Post by helenS on Dec 20, 2010 22:45:13 GMT
Mark, again you are spot on, I know this is how the rat breeders (the registered ones anyway) work. When I rehomed we had to check that there was not a breeder they should go back to before coming to us
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